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3air weekly AMA, 4th May 2022 @5pm CET - Weekly update and Q&A
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3air weekly AMA, 4th May 2022 @5pm CET - Weekly update and Q&A

This is a transcript from our weekly YouTube live AMA:

Anita Mlakar: 00:08

Hello, everybody, and welcome to 3air’s AMA, we are back.

00:14

Anita Mlakar is my name. And I’m the host of these 3air’s AMAs. And I’m really happy to have you here today. And as you know, we’re doing these AMAs every Wednesday at 5 o’clock PM, of course, Central European Time. And if you have time, please make reservation for that day to be with us because this is your opportunity to ask questions. And of course, to write some comments in the chat. This is actually an opportunity to be with us live. And this is what we’re also doing today, a special AMA where we will be answering all of your questions, do write it in the comment, I won’t be the one answering them but Sandi Bitenc CEO of 3air will be with us in a couple of seconds. And of course, we will talk about what is going on at 3air right now. So, stay tuned, as they say. And please do join us on our channels. We are on telegram, we are on Discord, on Twitter, we are having every now and then also Twitter spaces where it’s also another opportunity for you to be with us, of course, to chat. And there’s opportunity to speak to us live. You can of course subscribe to our YouTube channel, click like, if you like today’s AMA. And please do be a part of this what is going on right here right now.

01:40

As always, I do a short introduction of our project every time we start, and this is what I will do right now. So 3air is a blockchain based telecom platform focused on bringing broadband internet, digital TV and telephone to millions of Africans. So 3air’s mission is to connect Africa’s unconnected population to the rest of the world through blockchain based ultra-fast wireless broadband access. The lack of fast stable and affordable access to the internet connection in most parts of Africa has economic consequences besides limiting people’s potential to grow. There are so many bright minds in Africa, and this is their opportunity. So 3air is here to make a change. And it’s already happening. I hope you are a part of it. Our goal is to be the medium through which people can actualize their dreams via uninterrupted broadband Internet access. So again, welcome to be here with us. I would like to invite and say hello to our CEO, Sandi Bitenc.

02:50

Hello, Sandi.

Sandi Bitenc: 02:51

Hello, Anita. Hello, everyone.

Anita Mlakar: 02:55

You have a very nice, very bright, colorful shirt today.

Sandi Bitenc: 03:02

Yeah, it’s something that I pulled over my other t shirt because I’m cold.

Anita Mlakar: 03:10

You’re cold because you’re still not well, I think so Sandi.

Sandi Bitenc: 03:14

I think I still have a bit of fever, cough a lot. It is how it is. So, this is how I spent most of the holidays, let’s say.

Anita Mlakar: 03:26

Yeah. Well, it’s a good thing that there are holidays right now. Not only in Slovenia, we have ended them yesterday. But you still have holidays in Dubai some sort of holidays, right?

Sandi Bitenc: 03:37

Yes. So here I think it’s like the major holiday of them all, that looks like nobody’s working for this week. And I don’t think even the banks are working, like literally nothing. So, the whole week holidays like but you had it last week in all over Europe mostly, right?

Anita Mlakar: 04:02

Yes, we did. We did spend some holidays some time off, and it was good. We are still a little in this holiday mode. You know, everything is not working just as it should because, you know, there were really days at ease. And now we are getting back to work.

Sandi Bitenc: 04:20

Yeah, it does feel like this because nobody is answering anything to be honest. So, everybody is like really off even in the crypto space and you’re not really used to that. Probably, the general market sentiment doesn’t help a lot in getting the traction. So, it’s kind of like everything just got together in this one or two weeks.

Anita Mlakar: 04:47

Yeah, I know. We have already some comments in our chat, it’s really nice to have people with us today. And as Carlos is saying that the video is even more clearer today, really?

Sandi Bitenc: 05:00

The video is more clearer?

Anita Mlakar: 05:02

Yeah.

Sandi Bitenc: 05:03

I don’t know I have a better light I think, something like that.

Anita Mlakar: 05:07

Well, I hope we are always clear so that they can see and hear us of course but this is what we are doing Sandi not of course in Dubai and Slovenia although it maybe we should but bringing such clear picture and internet and connection to Africa, right?

Sandi Bitenc: 05:26

Yeah!

Anita Mlakar: 05:28

Yeah, this is really something that we all need, we cannot imagine our life without internet. So, Sandi 3air is very active no matter if there are holidays or not. Do tell us what is going on right now?

Sandi Bitenc: 05:43

Well also 3air isn’t really so much active this week to be honest and the previous. You cannot keep everyone working over the holidays. It just impossible. So yeah, I was in Amsterdam, and then after Amsterdam, I was in London. I heard you were in London also.

Anita Mlakar: 06:04

Yeah, so I went to Paris and to London. Oh, my God, it was so great.

Sandi Bitenc: 06:08

Yeah, we just missed each other for a day or something like that.

Anita Mlakar: 06:12

we are bad at planning. We have to admit that.

Sandi Bitenc: 06:15

Yeah, too bad. So, this was it. The events were good. Some connections were made, following up on those right now but also development work started again, yesterday. So, we are again, working on the NFT platform. And hopefully I’ll be able to show you the demo by the end of the week. Or at least just maybe Monday. But yeah, we did. We did give our developers, the majority of the developers so Rok was still working all the time but the majority of the rest of the team had kind of a bit of an off a few days off.

Anita Mlakar: 07:06

Rok is always working. I had that feeling that he is active all the time.

Sandi Bitenc: 07:11

Yeah! Yes, we need to we need to take care of him, though, so he doesn’t burn out.

Anita Mlakar: 07:17

You know what? He’s young and full of energy. So yeah, we have a good young member of the team with us. That’s great. Sandi, talking about NFTs, utility focused NFTs, we actually believe that this is the future, right at 3air and this is why is this plan to launch NFTs that will give, let’s say holders, real benefits.

Sandi Bitenc: 07:46

Yes, sure NFTs have a lot of, let’s say unexplored properties yet, the majority that we are using NFTs right now is really for, you know, proving some ownership of some images. So, we have the collectibles there, we have some art, there are some NFTs coming out with music and some additional rights to the music and so on. There are some NFTs being used already for ticketing and so on. So, we are getting into a bit of some additional use cases. So, what we’re trying to do is get some additional use cases to the NFT. So, our NFT, what we’re doing right now is there will be artworks connected to it so that for sure.

08:41

Laura is doing a part of this artworks. And we are also connecting with other African artists too, just to support them but from our side, 3air side, we’ll be adding some additional properties that go into Internet connectivity. So, as I already explained a few times. It’s going to be like, you’re going to hold an NFT or going to plug it into our system. And according on what kind of NFT you have, you’ll get your internet connectivity. So, this is how it works in general. And what it allows is actually that, if I don’t use the NFT my whole subscription to the fullest I need to go somewhere on vacation or something and I can send it to you and then you can use it on your side. Or I can just send it to somebody who really needs it, or you know, to a school. We’re working a lot on school connectivity and probably this is really fun to watch when once you give somebody some tools they usually start building something out of it. And I can already imagine that there will be some people that will be just buying up some NFTs and then renting them out and making some additional revenue streams on that. And this is what the NFTs actually allow you then to do on the secondary market, it’s not up to us. Actually, we can just try to enable as many things as possible.

Anita Mlakar: 10:23

Yeah. And great opportunity anyhow. This is your opportunity, of course, to ask questions. As I said, there are so many questions being asked in our communities on telegram and everywhere. And now it’s really a chance to put some into action right here right now because we have Sandi live. So, Sandi there are some questions also about the launch of the token, I’m sure that there will be one popping out right now or here in this AMA. Could we say something about that?

Sandi Bitenc: 10:52

So, we just front run them.

Anita Mlakar: 10:55

Yeah.

Sandi Bitenc: 10:57

Look, just, I’m really sorry but there’s no information about the token, right now. So, no new info. As I said, the last week and a half, I haven’t been able to speak to anyone really push things further. So, we’re still looking to get launch pads in. And we did get approved by one central exchange. So that’s a good thing. We are making progress. We are making steps, but everything needs to fall in place. And even with the current market sentiment, it doesn’t make sense to launch a token right now. I do think that we’re not launching the token just to launch a token, we do want to have a successful launch and just launching in a trend. That’s right now here, I don’t see doing any good to anyone. So, I think, we need to still wait a bit. Although I do not want to wait really, myself, I would really like to have this off of my chest and have the token out, but I do want that to be right and successful. And there are still a few things that need to fall in place.

12:12

As I said, already, technically, we have everything under control. We’ve now even made steps technically steps in. I have everything moved to chain ready. So, the token will be possible to bridge to any of the EVM compatible chains or even to other chains that are not like really 100% EVM. we will also have the NFTs will be cross chain. So, you’ll be able to carry the NFTs around. So, what we’re doing right now is really focusing on getting all those connections in and you can leave me as soon as we have the information. I’ll share it with you.

Anita Mlakar: 12:57

Okay, we need some patience right now. So, Richard, thank you for your question. Can you tell us today a bit more about the status of the 10 million investment on the ground milestones planning legislation?

Sandi Bitenc: 13:12

Yeah, so the investment starts this month, I think it should start in a few days. Let me see, I could probably get somebody on the next AMA. That is a bit more hands on this. So, I do work on the blockchain part. So how exactly the local teams are doing, I need to check up and, but the investment starts there this month.

Anita Mlakar: 13:48

Okay, thank you.

Sandi Bitenc: 13:50

I know that the hardware is being produced already. So that I know.

Anita Mlakar: 13:56

That’s something. Sandi, there was some talking in our telegram community about the notifications and the whole communication that is going on in our channels, of course, and some of them said that there are maybe too much push notifications because those who are regularly there are reading them a lot but there is a point to it. Of course, we are here to also listen to the people in our community, to say what they think and of course to listen and to do something about it, but could you tell us a little more about this communication?

Sandi Bitenc: 14:39

Yeah, I also think that it goes a bit into the wrong side. So, we are trying to correct this. So, what has happened is that a lot of people joined, we need to inform them about what we are doing and so on. And also, a lot of people came up to us and asked us if they can, you know, just be community managers and help us out. And, you know, we just took on, we’re trying to build up a group of ambassadors who will spread the word. And I think it’s working. It’s working all over the social media, if you look what’s happening also on Twitter, not only on telegram and on Discord, there are our ambassadors that are there, that are supporting people. that are, you know, writing the answers, making people aware of what we’re doing. And maybe in the telegram group, it just got a bit of exaggerated. So, we’re tuning this down a bit, so that everyone else can also start, I do invite everyone to actually write something, post some questions, it’s going to be far easier to answer some questions, maybe get some conversations going?

Anita Mlakar: 16:09

Yes, of course, talking about the interesting themes, and but it’s also nice to hear the opinions so that we can create even a better community environment for the people who are with us. Now, there was a question from Carlos, I want to hear from Sandi have all the winners of the 3air token giveaway been awarded yet?

Sandi Bitenc: 16:33

So, the token is still not out. So, nobody got the tokens yet. So once the tokens are live, once we launch the token, everyone gets the same option. So, you need to log into our system, and you should see the tokens there that are waiting for you. And once they’re available for claiming, you’ll be able to claim it from there.

Anita Mlakar: 17:01

Okay, we have a comment here, which is good to go through. I fully agree with Sandi, launching the token right now won’t do anybody any favor, just like DD says in the telegram group, however much we want the token to launch, we also have to think about our investments, so rushing to the debt, it doesn’t make any sense.

Sandi Bitenc: 17:25

Yeah, currently, everything is so much in the downtrend. And the market is so nervous that none of the outcomes actually work well. So, the smaller, the newer, the worse for them.

Anita Mlakar: 17:41

Yeah. Richard, can you make sure the team on the ground will make some beautiful video documentary, we need to show the world, the good work that is/will be done?

Sandi Bitenc: 17:51

Absolutely! Yeah, we are doing that.

Anita Mlakar: 17:56

That’s great. There was something you have already done when you were in Nigeria, I think so. There was some nice videos. And people really liked that because they get the feeling how is it on the field? What is going on? Also, I think Sierra Leone, so yeah, great.

Sandi Bitenc: 18:14

Yeah, we have some footage from Sierra Leone. I don’t know how much of this was published yet. But I don’t know. I know that it’s waiting. And Ruba has the control over that, how this gets released but what we did is a documentary in Ethiopia. So, I think you meant that one, right?

Anita Mlakar: 18:35

Sandi, there are a lot of blogs being given for people to read. There are one for educating people. There are some great stories also, maybe in a way, also we have this author with a way of a fiction story, but the goal is the same to have an insight or how it actually is in Africa. And what 3air team is doing.

Sandi Bitenc: 19:02

Yeah, of course, there’s many things you know, the whole project is so complex that, I a lot of times get- when I try to explain it, there’s just it’s too much. It’s too much for one go. So, what we’ve been trying now, and I think that the last blog was actually one part of this is trying to really make it in a simple terms as possible what we’re trying to do, and we also made an image there. So, this is coming from one angle what the actual value of the token is in the whole 3air ecosystem. And what we’re doing right now, and I think this is almost ready, it’s another infographics that shows how we are actually- what the steps are that we are trying to do to get people from the unconnected, unbanked and powerless to connected, banked and empowered. So, there are a few steps in between. And, you know, there’s a lot of projects that claim to be banking the unbanked, but the problem is that the majority, there are still more people that don’t have the internet connection. They don’t have bank accounts and in majority they overlap. So, the majority of the unbanked actually don’t have internet connection. So, you need to start there, you cannot just jump in, and you know, start getting people on blockchain because you can’t. So, the majority of people that are right now using the let’s say, the apps that tend to bank the unbanked are actually the ones that are already banked. So, this is where the first really big gap is so connecting people.

20:53

The other one is that if you have people that are unbanked, you need to get them the ability to actually get their funds somehow on the blockchain. And that’s the second part.

21:04

You cannot just give people a DeFi app and expect them to be able to use it if they’re unbanked. If you want to get your funds on the blockchain, you usually need to go through an exchange. So, you would then need to have a bank account already. So, you can make a wire transfer, or you pay with credit card, that’s usually the two things that you do. And if you want- that’s kind of a catch 22. If you want to bank the unbanked, then you require them to have a bank prior to this, it doesn’t make really much sense.

21:43

So, this is also a part that we are working intensely on because we know it’s a problem. So, there are a few projects out there that are trying to do something like peer-to-peer transfers, and also Binance is quite big in this. So, what they’re doing is they’re setting up people that are kind of validated with them. And then the new users can go to them and pay with cash. And then those people will actually credit them crypto on their crypto accounts. So, this is how you then get money with cash onto the blockchain. And of course, it also needs to work the other way around, you can also not expect that people will just stay all 100% Crypto or something like that they also need some money for daily expenses. So, it also needs to work the other way around. So, I need to be able to send my crypto somewhere and then get cash out. So, this is also intensely a part of the work that we are trying to do and support.

Sandi Bitenc: 22:49

Those are the two things that nobody is really thinking about. So, whoever says they’re banking the unbanked, you literally need to ask them, you know, what about the ones that are not connected? And what about the ones that actually don’t have a bank account and cannot get money on them on blockchain?

Anita Mlakar: 23:06

Yeah, I’m not sure if I read correctly, but around 13% of adult people don’t have any access to financial bank. That only accounts but they can reach anything from it. So is that possible 13% of adult people, imagine today and adult you know, being without an account or somehow being connected to that.

Sandi Bitenc: 23:32

Yeah, that’s correct. You know, the numbers go into billions of people that don’t have the bank accounts. But there are like 40% of people that don’t have internet connection. So that’s also quite big.

Anita Mlakar: 23:46

Yeah, so now banking services then on the other hand, no internet connection. Yeah. Well, this is going to be a huge change after that. Jo Ga, we have a question. Are you also planning to develop a Fiat on ramp for those people?

Sandi Bitenc: 24:02

So, we’re not developing our own Fiat on ramp, but we are partnering up with providers. It’s just it’s impossible to do what we are trying to do. We need our 100% focus on it. And having a Fiat onboarding ramp, it’s not so much technically intensive as it is legally intensive. So, you need to have a whole army of lawyers to be able to be regulated and compliant in each country because in each country that you take on, that you onboard new clients on you actually need to have kind of a permit or license or be compliant in some kind of way. And that means it’s also not just you set things up and then you know, even if you do it right legally the first day, regulations in crypto space are changing literally in weeks, just take a look at what happened to India. So, India, they switch their stands on crypto every two weeks, I think. Now they are again, pro crypto.

Anita Mlakar: 25:16

Unbelievable.

Sandi Bitenc: 25:17

Probably next month, they’ll probably again, ban it. It’s just how it is.

Anita Mlakar: 25:22

Yeah! It’s really changing all the time. And you said like regulations are changing and everything. So, you have to actually be aware of everything that is going on. And we are talking about educating people all the time, but Sandi, also people from the team like you, you need to educate yourself. So where do you get all the knowledge? All the time?

Sandi Bitenc: 25:45

Well, internet.

Anita Mlakar: 25:49

Yeah, back to internet.

Sandi Bitenc: 25:51

Yeah, everything on internet, let’s talk about a bit about the education system right now. I think it’s totally wrong. It’s like so archaic, they try to teach you a lot of stuff that you actually don’t need, you need to memorize it, I don’t know why we would need to memorize things right now, when we have everything at hand. Of course, you need to memorize the things that’s really the most important, but just memorizing all the history and everything, you can just look it up. What is really important is, I think, searching for information and putting this information together, and put to good use.

26:45

I think one of the big problems right now is that we are overwhelmed with information and that nobody is actually validating it. So, we need to be the ones that are validating what’s true and what’s not. So, this is now so I think that the major issue, so what is true and what’s not. So, if you’re able to pick the right information out of, you know, all the stuff, I think that’s the most important thing that you can do right now and learn. So, yeah, I tend to, you know, watch some cool people on YouTube, I tend to read some blog posts every day. So that’s for sure. And I go around, you know, some conferences and try to learn from really smart people. So, this is how it is.

27:48

In London, there was the Financial Times event. I already know that, but when I was hearing there, you know, I think there was a woman from Fidelity or GSR, I don’t know, she was explaining that the OTC Markets are right now are literally blooming. So, since the beginning of the year, we didn’t see much price movement. And that would indicate, okay, there’s not so much buying going on, and also the volume is actually decreased. But OTC is like going crazy. So, this means that large buyers are coming in, but buying it from exchanges directly not from the open market. And what this means is that it won’t affect the market immediately. And now this can go on for months and months, but at one point, the supply shocks comes in place. So, there is no going around it. At one point also the exchanges need to start buying up the tokens that they sold over the counter. And that’s probably when we are going to see you know, a major shift again. So, it’s also important of course, to know what’s happening on a macro level of crypto.

Anita Mlakar: 28:15

Yeah, maybe this is a question also for our members of community and those who are with us today. How do you educate yourself or where do you find information? Because I think Sandi, like you said it’s not a problem you know, to go and find information but we need to know what we are looking for. So, you know, first to be educated in a way what do we need and what is important right now in our lives and then of course we can search if we don’t have a clue about it. Then we don’t know what information to seek for that’s I think the problem also.

Sandi Bitenc: 29:48

Yeah sure. You know, of course you need to follow what you’re curious about I think you need to be curious a bit and then just read and read a bit more and then read still a bit more, and just be open minded. And, you know, what I tend to notice is that the more I read, the more I want to read, the more I think I need to know something, you know, something more, something new, there’s always questions popping out. It’s not only answers, it answers one thing, but then another questions opens up, and I need to follow that one then.

Anita Mlakar: 30:28

yeah, to go deeper and deeper and see. There’s another thing we are for years talking about the school system, I think, and probably in every country, I know, here in Slovenia, we’re talking about the school system that it’s slow and not up to date, and so on. And then thank God, there are people who educate themselves and then they share the knowledge through I don’t know, social networks, or they make something on air, you now just to be present. And this is the way that we can learn. And of course, we come back to connection because we connection for that.

Sandi Bitenc: 31:02

This can also be dangerous, I need to say this can also be dangerous. So, you follow the wrong people that some people really have, you know, that natural persuasive ability, they’re like really, so sure of themselves, and they can tell you such a good story, but then there is nothing behind it, or there’s even some scam behind it. So, you also need to be careful who you actually trust. It’s not only you cannot follow only one person. So, if you are interested in one topic, you should listen to one person that’s really hyped about it. And then, you know, you need to listen to the other guy that’s also putting it down, you know, and then you needs to listen to at least 10 people I would say if you wanted to have a good knowledge and then actually know what’s the truth, then you cannot just listen to one person and you know, then you’re just listening to what you really want to listen to and what you want to hear. And that’s not educative. So yeah, absolutely. Even if you believe and you want to believe like this is true, and you know, it’s like everybody is when there’s so much hype around it any cryptocurrency you know, you just need to listen to somebody who says the opposite also. And then you need to know what’s true and what’s not. You need to be able to listen to it.

Anita Mlakar: 32:41

Yeah, we need a choice so that we can compare, you know, different alternatives

Sandi Bitenc: 32:48

I think that’s harder to do than actually somebody might believe.

Anita Mlakar: 32:54

Yeah, it is. Petra says, be hungry for knowledge. I do agree on that.

Sandi Bitenc: 33:01

She really is hungry for knowledge that I can tell you.

Anita Mlakar: 33:04

Okay. Jules said something. Look at that. Live AMAs with Sandi, YouTube, Twitter has been a major contributor to my knowledge too, TBH no books at all. I think it all comes back to my reading. I’m so visual. Okay. Yeah, well, visual media is important.

Sandi Bitenc: 33:26

Yeah, of course. I think the audiobooks or podcasts or AMAs or you know those things of course they’re visual, I think what we are lacking, and I know we are lacking is a bit of some explanatory videos. And so, if there’s anyone who wants to take on this if we have a good animator, in our midst, he should come forward we are for sure looking for some good animators. So absolutely. We’re very different how we learn so some actually learn better visually some need to hear it, some to read it. I think that the best is still if there is a mix. Then you tend to learn and remember it better. There are even some techniques with learning where you actually press you know, on some points and that’s actually then another channel where you can kind of sing this in and it is funny, you know, just think about it. If you listen to a song that you heard maybe only once or twice but when you hear it the third time you’ll actually be able to repeat it, you know, or sing it, read it, or when you know what it is about but if you just read something, or just hear it, just try and do it like that There’s a lot to learn, not only just the sitting behind the book and reading it.

Anita Mlakar: 35:21

yeah. And also in every audience, we have visual people, and we have audio people and kinesthetic people, that means that they’re approaching differently. And I think this is what we’re doing actually also in 3air, you know, are trying to connect to all of them with visuals, also something with video and with emotions, right? Also pointing to emotions. And that’s good. That’s the way to do it. And maybe we should also ask people, what else would they like? You know, because we have Twitter space, like audio, we have AMAs, it’s video, we have blogs, we have something to read. We’re talking about what we’re doing, and it’s based on emotion. So maybe there will be some good ideas. Also, what else could we do? So, you’re welcome to write it down.

Sandi Bitenc: 36:11

Yeah, we’re always open to suggestions.

Anita Mlakar: 36:17

And if you have something for Sandi’s coughing, oh my god Sandi, you’re really not okay and you’re yet working.

Sandi Bitenc: 36:27

Yeah, so I’ve been coughing since 10 days now. It’s getting better. So yeah, I think I need a couple more days. And then I’ll be 100% again but now these days it’s just behind the computer really warm up and some tea for me.

Anita Mlakar: 36:51

You know what we’re drinking in Slovenia. If we have coughing or we have a sore throat or something. Schnapps, or how do you call it? It’s a medicine. It’s alcohol shot.

Sandi Bitenc: 37:01

It’s medicine. That’s a good excuse, I would say.

Anita Mlakar: 37:06

To drink alcohol. Also, whiskey helps or overall if you don’t mind.

Sandi Bitenc: 37:12

It just needs to be alcohol, right? I tend not to drink alcohol when I’m sick.

Anita Mlakar: 37:22

We have a suggestion here, but I don’t think that’s good. You should drink some Radenska water for your throat. That’s not because it has bubbles.

Sandi Bitenc: 37:30

Yeah, I don’t like bubbles at all.

Anita Mlakar: 37:33

They’re not doing any good for the throat you know, bubbles. So, tea is okay.

Sandi Bitenc: 37:38

Warm tea with some honey and with some lime and that’s it, it’s perfect. I think I drank like three litre of tea per day in the last week.

Anita Mlakar: 37:56

I can just imagine. Let’s see what it says Jo Ga. Maybe you can pose the briefing for the animated videos into discord and then make a giveaway competition out of it. There is a suggestion.

Sandi Bitenc: 38:11

Yeah, we could do that. I think we already have some scripts out written. Yeah, I think we need to we need to get Ruba on this. Let’s point this out to Ruba.

Anita Mlakar: 38:32

Rachel says, it’s Amsterdam fever.

Sandi Bitenc: 38:34

I think it was from Amsterdam. I thought that Dubai is crazy, but I think Dubai was pretty much okay because we kind of were open all the time. So, nobody, you know, there were no lock downs. We had some restrictions in place that were really minor. And there were some restriction in how many people could be together, you know, in their room in the beginning. And we still needed to wear masks and everything. And then but when I came in Amsterdam, I think it was just like, a week after they opened up everything. And it was I think it was overnight. It was going from full restrictions just to everything open up, no masks, nothing. Everyone can, you know, just crawl over everyone. I don’t think that’s good also. So, I think the people literally got a bit crazy and just wanted to enjoy what they couldn’t in the last past two years, and that’s probably also not the way to go. So yeah, I probably got something from around there. And I also think that you know, now that we were so locked up there was also not so much like the regular flu going around and, you know, the common cold and everything. And I think that our immune systems needs to be trained for that. And they are not, mine for sure wasn’t so yeah, that’s probably why it’s a bit worse than I’m used to.

Anita Mlakar: 40:25

Yeah, our immune system is really worse, you know. And now that we get out, we just catch everything that is around us. So yeah, we will be okay. We will go into normal. But it’s really interesting when I was flying now and at the airports in Italy, in Venice, everybody was, we should wear this FTTP mask or whatever they are. And then we came to Paris, and we were all like wearing masks. And nobody was wearing masks there. So, we put it down. And then we went to London, it was down, and you just cannot imagine, and you don’t know what is coming. So, it’s really interesting.

Sandi Bitenc: 41:04

I went I went from Amsterdam with the train to London. And once we passed Amsterdam to Belgium, they literally they announced now you need to wear masks. And then it was the same train. It was same people. We didn’t even stop in between and then they were coming because we pass the border into another country. They were coming around and bugging us to now put on masks. I don’t know, in Amsterdam, the virus, they doesn’t have a passport to go there or a visa. Once we came then to London, in London it’s still kind of recommend that you should be wearing masks but once I came out on the train station, even the police weren’t wearing masks. So, you know, then no one was wearing them at all.

Anita Mlakar: 42:03

No, they’re really open there now.

Sandi Bitenc: 42:08

It’s interesting how times are changing right now.

Anita Mlakar: 42:12

It’s really different. And we have changed, you know, because there are some people who still have problem with giving mask away. They get used to it, they’re afraid. And so, we have now like different people different thinking, and we do have to adjust and accept everyone for whatever they’re doing. And follow ourselves through that. And that’s it, I think. So, I’m ringing the bell for the last questions if there anymore. We’re more than 40 minutes on Sandi, we said we will be here as long as the questions will be coming.

Sandi Bitenc: 42:12

I literally thought that today’s AMA will be like less than half an hour to be honest. So, I think everyone is more or less still in vacation mode. So now it’s 45 minutes.

Anita Mlakar: 43:07

Yeah, we had some nice conversation and some great questions. So, thank you very much. Sandi, should we add something before we close this AMA?

Sandi Bitenc: 43:17

No, I am looking forward for next week’s. I think next week’s AMA will be far more exciting with a lot of additional news. So, I think next week’s AMA we will have some cool stuff, that’s for sure.

Anita Mlakar: 43:33

Here is this reminder next week, someone from the on the ground team.

Sandi Bitenc: 43:39

Yeah, let me see. Let me try to organize that.

Anita Mlakar: 43:42

Okay, so thank you very much for all the questions. Thank you Sandi for giving us the answers and for this nice chat. It was really great. And again, we would like to invite you to be a part of our communities please join us. We are also very active on our social networks. So, there are a lot of information there. And every Wednesday we will meet here 5pm and do our AMA and we would like really now to welcome you to another week’s AMA, so be with us. Stay with us. Get well soon Sandi says, Jo Ga.

Sandi Bitenc: 44:18

I will be 100% no worries.

Anita Mlakar: 44:22

Okay, Sandi, have a great day and stay healthy.

Sandi Bitenc: 44:26

You too.

Anita Mlakar: 44:27

Thank you for being with us.

Sandi Bitenc: 44:29

Bye

Anita Mlakar: 44:29

Bye.


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