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3air Ladies Team - 3air AMA, 6_4_22 @5pm CET


This is a transcript from our weekly YouTube live AMA:

Anita Mlakar: 00:05

Hello, everybody, hello 3air family. I'm really happy to be back again here in our regular AMA every Wednesday 5pm Central European Time. And I'm happy to have you all here with us on this special occasion because this is a little different AMA that we are used to still now but let's go one step at a time.


Anita Mlakar is my name, I am the host of these AMAs. And I hope that you know what we are doing, this is 3air and 3air is bringing broadband internet to Africa. And this is what we are talking about also in our AMAs. Now every time we have also Sandi Bitenc, the CEO of 3air joining us. But today we will see because this is a special girls or Ladies Night, however you may name it. And actually, the team, girls team behind 3air or somehow connected to 3air will be with you today. And I'm really looking forward to that. In the next couple of minutes. I will be introducing them all. I'm sure you have seen the announcement. But if not, this will be a surprise.


So, before we start, let me invite you to be a part of what we're doing. How can you do that, of course you can join us and follow us on our channels in our communities. We have one on Telegram, then we have one on Discord and on Twitter. Then you can follow us on our social networks where we are in connection with you. And you can be also part of this live sessions that we have on YouTube every Wednesday and on Twitter space every Monday afternoon 5pm Central European Time. And this is a special opportunity for you because you can ask questions, you can be live with us. You can write some comments and so on. Actually, I will check some of them now. yeah, I see that you are here, already. Thank you very much. And thank you who are always with us. I see that there are some of you who are really here all the time. So nice. Hello, and welcome again.


Before we start, I always do a short introduction of 3air and the project of 3air. And I will do this also now, although, of course, we are looking forward to meeting other ladies who are with me today but what are we doing? so 3air is a blockchain based telecom platform focused on bringing broadband internet, digital TV telephone to millions of Africans. And 3air's mission is to connect Africa's unconnected population to the rest of the world through blockchain based ultra-fast wireless broadband access because the lack of this stable and affordable access to the internet connection, in most parts of Africa has not only economic consequences, but also is limiting people's potential to grow. There are so many great minds in Africa. And we would like to give them the opportunity, of course, to grow and to be seen. And 3air is here to make a change. And this change is already happening.


A big role beside the community, beside you, who are with us all the time. Also place the team behind it. And let's also say women in the team, which is very important. And I would really like to introduce our guests today. First, let me introduce Petra Kmetec, Ruba Aramouny and Hilina Damte.


Hello ladies!

Ruba Aramouny: 03:54


Petra Kmetec: 03:54


Hilina Damte: 03:54


Anita Mlakar: 03:55

Hey, it's so nice to see you. And it's so interesting because we are in different parts of the world but still together. Thanks to internet and the possibility that Internet gives us. Is that so?

Ruba Aramouny: 04:09

That's exactly right.

Anita Mlakar: 04:10

Yes, and we will be talking about that today but what is most important is that we have this, let's say special ladies night, just introduce the team or let's say women who are somehow connected to 3air and also making this story possible. I'm really happy to have you all here, girls. You're looking wonderful by the way.

Hilina Damte: 04:35

You too!

Ruba Aramouny: 04:35

Same to you.

Anita Mlakar: 04:38

And I'm already reading the comments. I think you can see them too. So yeah, we have some great people with us already saying hi. And already writing some comments. We will be reading them as we go along but first of all, let me just ask you, how are you right now and where are you? Let's start with Ruba.

Ruba Aramouny: 05:01

I'm good. We're very busy closing the pre-sale or and preparing the token launch. So, my days are filled with that right now. And I am in Belgium, so I'm based in Belgium not in Dubai. Like a lot of your team is and yeah, so we all work remotely also something that internet and really good Internet connection makes possible.

Anita Mlakar: 05:30

Okay. Hilina, you were in Dubai just a couple of days ago and I think you're back in Ethiopia. Is that so?

Hilina Damte: 05:38

Yes, I'm now back in Addis. Obviously, this is not my first time on the AMA, but just to introduce myself. I'm Hilina based in Addis. I'm the managing partner of PayWay Ethiopia and really 3air and happy to be part of the 3air community.

Anita Mlakar: 05:59

Thank you Hilina. It's really nice to have you here. Petra, you are in Dubai, right?

Petra Kmetec: 06:04

Yes, I am. I'm in Dubai. My name is Petra Kmetec and I work here as happiness officer. So, somebody from our team have some issues to deal with they can always come to me for some talk, like we did with Anita last time. And it doesn't matter if this is like business oriented, family oriented, or however, we just want that people are feeling good and safe and supported in our community.

Anita Mlakar: 06:35

Yes, it is Petra. Thank you very much for taking care of us. I already introduced myself, I'm the host of the events that 3air is having online with our community with the people that are here with us also today. And I'm really enjoying this especially because every time I have different guests in our AMAs or on Twitter space. By the way, we had a great Twitter space on Monday. Great subject and a lot of people coming in. Hilina and Ruba, you were also there, it was really a good one, right?

Ruba Aramouny: 07:08

It was very good. And we had more than it was our biggest one to date. That's also because of the great network that Hilina has and can organize for really good speakers and interesting speakers to come on our Twitter space. And more than 500 people tuned in. So, it's really good because if you look at Twitter spaces, you often see a lot of them, and people drop in and out and in and out but this one was very engaging, and we had a really good discussion.

Anita Mlakar: 07:46

Yes, it's true. Hilina, I'm here in Europe, in Slovenia, and I'm trying of course to connect with some people who can help us with some subject and that is what you're doing in Africa also, you know a lot of people and you are really important in this connection. How do you spread this network in Africa?

Hilina Damte: 08:05

Well, obviously, you know, with PayWay we are in five countries started in Uganda 11 years ago. Then Burundi, Cameroon, DRC also Ethiopia. So, with that, Of course, you meet lots of people. And also, just going to many blockchain events, meetups. This is how I make my network. And you also asked about Dubai, I was there for the Binance Blockchain week. It was really amazing. Like, I really enjoyed Dubai. That's where the crypto scene is. And it's happening. And actually, there was also a big African community in blockchain there. So, it was really nice. That came to the conference.

Anita Mlakar: 08:53

Yes! We would like to hear more about that, about what was happening there. You were also with Sandi all the time, and you were commenting that it was interesting to be like you said to see the way he's working. Could you share some experience?

Hilina Damte: 09:11

Yeah, I got to spend some time with Sandi and like, kind of pick his brain and just like, even made me believe more in the project, because I could really see that Sandi is very passionate, but also, he's very knowledgeable in this space, and also has a very good network. Actually, there were three back-to-back conferences in Dubai. So, the last two weeks were crazy there. It was like you would meet VCs, different blockchain companies. For Binance Unfortunately, CZ had COVID He didn't come but still it was an amazing event.

Anita Mlakar: 09:55

Yeah, there was also I hope, some time to party a little bit. To connect on those parties.

Hilina Damte: 10:02

No, too much time, literally too many crypto parties there. I didn't rest one day.

Anita Mlakar: 10:10

Okay, so now you're back home and you have to rest a little bit to get your power back.

Hilina Damte: 10:15

Yes, exactly!

Anita Mlakar: 10:19

Okay, thank you Hilina. Now, Petra, you're the one living with Sandi all the time because you are future wife to be. Well, we know that already but tell us a little bit Petra. It is a little bit hectic, also, be a partner with someone also doing business with someone doing the same thing. I know that you have your own thing also. But how is it that we have a little insights on life with Sandi?

Petra Kmetec: 10:48

It's interesting, I have to say it's really interesting because I meet a lot of new people, also. And I have to say when Hilina was here, it was really networking all the time. And I saw Hilina in action. And she's amazing, I have to say that Hilina, you are like, really a blessing. And living with Sandi, he's all the time on calls. So sometimes we are like in the same apartment, but we speak like some words during the breakfast or in the evening. And sometimes we have like, some free time for ourselves. So, it's good. It's constantly something is going on, it's happening. And it's nice.

Anita Mlakar: 11:39

Just tell me Petra, how you're connecting this, you know, it's your business, what you're doing, maybe you should tell us a little bit about what you're doing exactly that we know to get to know all of you better. But on the other hand, of course, being a part of this big project of 3air, how do you handle all this in one and then on the other hand?

Petra Kmetec: 12:00

So, what I do, I'm a coach, I work for transactional analysis. So, I do mostly my work with clients one on one, to help them to achieve a little bit better version of themselves, like achieving and having more inner satisfaction with themselves. And I also do some lectures and seminars, and like webinars, so this is like, what the most of my day looks like. And with 3air. I talk a lot with Sandi. So, we talk a lot, what to do, how to do some things and also about communication, how to speak something out to the people to the community. And it's good, I can see the results. And right now, if you look at our telegram channel, we have almost 13,000 people in. so I think it's 12,900 or something. So, this is amazing. And sometimes, some people are, like, nice, sometimes they are not so nice. So, it's like a balance, how to talk, how to communicate and this is my role.

Anita Mlakar: 13:26

Yeah, very important role. Because you know, behind every successful man and the successful project is of course, a woman.

Petra Kmetec: 13:41

There are many women behind it.

Anita Mlakar: 13:48

Yeah, maybe this will be the next question before we get to what is actually happening right now in 3air? like how important is you think the role of women in not only in a project but let's say in business world? How do we get in, let's say with our women's energy or with softness, and what can we do in a project that I don't know, are mostly men's projects? What do you think?

Petra Kmetec: 14:18

So, my opinion is that we can act better, women are like, we do things together. And we thrive when we do things together. So, it's good that we are not like rivals to each other, but that we accept that how can we co create some good things and I think this is also now happening. I was speaking also with some girls here on these crypto parties. And they also said that they're not so many girls here in this space, so on movement to bring a little bit more girls into the blockchain and I think we're going to see more and more women here also. And this is okay, this is nice, this is really important.

Anita Mlakar: 15:08

Yes, Ruba, what do you think about that?

Ruba Aramouny: 15:11

I agree! There are a lot of studies that show that women are more risk averse, often in business and in their careers. And blockchain is a new space and crypto is a new space. Already in tech and in finance, you see a lower percentage of women and then you put that together and you have tech and finance in crypto. And it's like an extra hurdle but I see it coming up more and more. And what I also see on Twitter and on influencers is that women also like to follow female, active people and influencers in blockchain and in crypto. So, it's a nice movement to support. So, if Petra you join the movement for that, I think that's great because we do have so much to bring, and especially in creativity and analytical thinking, networking, there's so many ways in which I don't know the female energy, you know, balances out what is already there in the space that it can only benefit.

Anita Mlakar: 16:23

Yes, it's true. Hilina, would you say that blockchain is only reserved for men?

Hilina Damte: 16:30

Absolutely, not. Totally disagree with that. But of course, you do see more men in this space, as Ruba said, in every other sector, as well. But what I've noticed with the blockchain space is, obviously, it's a community. So, we do find more women in blockchain communities. And I'm also in a field and we try to help empower each other we post when there are new opportunities out, you know, things like that. So, I think, as the communities grow, and come together, we will see more and more women for sure.

Anita Mlakar: 17:10

Yes, I do have that feeling, too. But first of all, you should allow yourself or have, let's say, if you're thinking about it, I think you should do it. Maybe there are a lot of women thinking about it. And they say, no, it would be too hard just getting into this man space. I didn't want to actually sound like we are doing this right now to empowering women and stuff like that. But it is also important to give them an information that it is possible, and that they can do it. And that this space is open for everyone, especially if we are talking about internet and online space, where everything is possible, right?

Petra Kmetec: 17:52

Anita, what is your opinion about this?

Anita Mlakar: 17:55

Well, I think that we are doing a very important role here, we are playing a very important role. But you know, I also think that also men and women energy is really much connected. So, we should not leave out one or the other. It's very important and what we are bringing to the business, it is maybe what I think a little softness, but it's true that sometimes when women when we come to this man's world, we get into man's energy, you know, and then we are actually the same as they are, we are fighting, we think we have to prove something, we have to be strong. And we start talking like, frogman, you know, and I think that we should just be, I know that sometimes when you're negotiating and when you are looking for your space or trying to make some, you know, a statement or something, you have to get a little more into this man's energy. But still, I'm sure that Hilina can also say that now that she was in these events, how much really this softness of women is bringing into even such meetings, events, connecting people, I think we have even the advantage, you know, because of our roles in the community.

Hilina Damte: 19:14

Yeah! I mean, softness. You know, I think we could be much harder than men. So, I don't know about that one. But no, definitely. In these events, I saw a lot of women that were doing amazing things, you know, like in the background of many great companies, and it was really nice and refreshing. And you know, obviously I think as a women we do have a better like analytical skills, we can see things from a broader point of view, you know, and also, I think we're easier to approach. So yeah, I think of course, and we can bring a lot of value to the blockchain space to different communities because you know, blockchain is very popular for Financial Inclusion, but also like financial inclusion within women, you know, especially in like African region or in the developing world.

Anita Mlakar: 20:15

Okay, now we have most of those who are with us today, I think mostly they are men. So maybe we should ask them what they think about that, you know, maybe they should write some comments about what do you think about this women's energy. How do you see women in financial, in blockchain world, how appreciated are there, I would really like to also read some of that comments and to read not hear your opinion, because you don't have the possibility to talk here. But it would be nice to also hear that. And there is another thing that we should maybe discuss or talk about. This is how actually what 3air is doing, connecting and bringing this internet, broadband internet to Africa, how this increased Internet access should actually close this gender gap in developing countries. This is something that we maybe should share our opinion about. We'll start with Ruba.

Ruba Aramouny: 21:16

Yes, so there are studies that we have also linked to in our different articles before that show that through increased Internet access in developing regions, especially, you close that gender gap, and you increase gender equality, because women have access to the same opportunities that they might not have had if they weren't connected. And if they weren't online, because maybe families choose to send the boys to school instead of the girls or the girls have other priorities that they have to focus on and they can't, you know, combine that with the day to day at home or something. So, it's been proven, there are studies and it's really important. And it's nice to focus on as well in our communication, because that's exact, the social benefit of 3air, an increased access to internet, but also global finance, can really empower not just everybody but especially women.

Anita Mlakar: 22:22

Yeah, good talks, really, I think so too. Petra, what do you think?

Petra Kmetec: 22:27

I think it's really important, especially with connectivity, because other woman can see that other women are doing it, that they are achieving some success. And then they can see if they can do it, maybe I can do it also. So that gives them a courage. And they can also online, connect with each other and share some thoughts, share some knowledge, some ideas, and maybe start collaborating together and working together towards the same goal. And I think this is really important, not just as through the connectivity, but also through having, like some vision and see your role models. So, if then you can just do the modeling and go step by step what they did, so I can do it also. And we can just start with this. If we learn the knowledge, is the power. So, if women start to learn about technology, about blockchain, I think we will see them more and more here. And they are independent with this, they're not dependent on their family members, or husbands or brothers or whoever, so they can just live their life like they want to on their own terms. So, this is really important.

Hilina Damte: 23:52

Of course, education. education, like Petra and Ruba said, but also, I think, because of course, I was talking about financial inclusion, and this is one of the biggest benefits of blockchain. So especially in this region, where, you know, people need digital IDs, but women can have access to like micro loans, because if they don't have the startup capital to start a business, you know, with Blockchain, they can be able to get micro loans, things like that. So, they can empower themselves, make better income, but also even with education and trainings, basically, to better their lives for know they can get work. I think that's the best way and of course, for them to have access to these services they need internet and connectivity.

Ruba Aramouny: 24:47

it's true, that's a really good point because if you look at, for example, funding opportunities, banking loans, like you said, starting a business, you often see that even though it shouldn't be the case, and that's everywhere in the world not just one part of the world, women have lower funding rates, lower acceptance rate to start businesses or get loans. And on the blockchain of everything is just your wallet address, your digital ID, your background doesn't play a role, or who you are, what you look like that directly balances out opportunities for everyone, everyone gets equal chances.

Anita Mlakar: 25:25

It's interesting on one hand, but still sad on the other that lets say, we should hide ourselves behind digital identities in order to reach all that or this is reachable to us. I was reading, I checked a little bit what are the biggest causes for gender gap in general. And it is also time away from employment, right? This is also interesting, because you know, women are more connected to families. When we have children, of course, then usually women stay at home. So, there is another thing that may be something that we're doing online could change, I'm not saying that we shouldn't be a part of the family because we want to, of course, we want to be with children when they're little. And we want to use the time off, actually, even more than we have it. But still, this is still more of a women's thing, right? Then it's like you said wages, payments, unequal pay, then it's promotion. So, how women can actually promote herself also online. And another thing, which is maybe it's a big cause, but I didn't even think about it, it's sexual harassment. This is also interesting. It's not that, you know, some women wouldn't go to work because of that but this is actually cause there was this research made. And I was, let's say surprised, even by that. So, working online, maybe in some ways also helps you with that. It's interesting, right?

Ruba Aramouny: 27:02

Yeah. Really interesting and, again, it's something that is not just for a specific region, it's everywhere, right? So, it's even more empowering if we can bring millions of people into that global movement that solve so many societal problems.

Anita Mlakar: 27:25

Yes, true. We have some comments.

Petra Kmetec: 27:28

Yeah, last time, on one podcast, they talked about one research that they made. And actually in, I think it's in New York, the Asian woman are really rocking it. They're having higher payments. And also, they have more higher roles, like CEOs and those kinds of roles. So, this was really interesting for me, that like, but not all the girls, but only they said it like Asian girls, because they're really more willing to work a little longer, and not so focused on their families, but more focused on their careers. So, they are like more in working like a men, like you said before, if we are girls, and we work like men, we can maybe achieve something in men's world. But yeah, that was interesting that actually, there are more women there in higher paid roles than men. So yeah, that was like, wow.

Anita Mlakar: 28:39

Wow, really, because usually women, everywhere we are. We are more on second place. So very important role behind the CEO, but playing a big role behind the CEO now, you know, is always, most of the times a woman with this, let's say women's energy, or I don't know, we have a different approach, of course, to some things. And maybe that's also interesting. We already are seeing some comments, I would just like to share also and read them with you. So, Dion said, being in a traditional male dominated industry creates a tough barrier to entry for women. It is understandable how that can be overwhelming. This is one comment. Then what do we have? I think it all comes back to personal curiosity. In my part of the world, Africa men are more curious, but I believe if there is availability of information everywhere women would adopt more. What do you think about that?

Ruba Aramouny: 29:53

More access you have to the information, the more you would adopt it, for sure. And I think What Petra has said it's very important role model. So, if you see that other women are taking the plunge other women are already daring to say, have an opinion on blockchain, on Bitcoin, you know, and then you'll also have an easier, you know, you'll be more empowered to take that step to and say okay, I also have something to share. I can do it as well.

Hilina Damte: 30:27

Yeah, your awareness is important on community on, you know, where women are empowering each other. Maybe like also some mentorship, if we mentor each other, you know, some kind of programs like that.

Anita Mlakar: 30:46

Yeah. women's community. Like you said, it is also really important. Juels said, more tech roles and maybe outperform men, because a lot of woman in this day and age don't want to rely on anyone for support and improvement. Interesting point of view. Here is another one. I had never thought about the anonymity aspects of blockchain being beneficial for women trying to enter the space or grow within the space. Ruba, this is what you said. You see, it's really an interesting aspect.

Ruba Aramouny: 31:37

Well, I think that if you look at 3air we actually have a good percentage of women. So, we have women advisors, women who help us in the team. We have women who work sometimes you look at blockchain projects or crypto projects, and you're like, okay, where are the women? Or you see a woman but she's not in like, she's like, I don't know, a personal assistant or something. Not that that's bad but it's just nice to see that there are like 3air enabled a lot of women to be in leadership positions as well.

Anita Mlakar: 32:13

Here's a comment from Michael. He says he wants to know something funny. Well, let's read this. From an economic point of view, you should only hire women, because you pay lower wages, but then there are men who do not believe in discrimination.

Ruba Aramouny: 32:33

That's a very economical way of thinking about it.

Anita Mlakar: 32:39

Actually, I mean, I'm sure that there are some people out there thinking like that, I'm sure, you know, we had an interesting discussion, not at home, but there was a big pile of people at some gathering, and it was exactly about women employing them or not employing them because we're missing out when we, we have a child, because we just get used to the work and then we're not there. And then we're at home a lot because of the child is sick, and stuff like that. So, there is a difference. We cannot say there is not a difference. Of course, there is. There's a proven difference in wages, of course but it's really interesting that because we are talking about internet and how internet and connections could change that, that it is really something to that, too. And it is good that we throw that out. So, thank you very much for this discussion. I would like now to just ask Ruba about 3air a little bit also. And Ruba what is going on from your perspective, a lot of course, marketing, PR. We are actually in a lot of events. We are doing a lot of community work. I see that, like Petra earlier said, telegram, our community and telegram is growing. So, what is going on?

Ruba Aramouny: 34:12

Yes, so those of us who are on telegram probably saw that in the past few days, we had a huge run ins on telegram which is the result of good cold marketing. So, telegram channel cold marketing where we get a lot of new people into the community and it's probably also one of the contributions. So, one of the things that contributed to us selling out the presale early and having or actually being able to close it early because that's a good thing. And yes, so we're doing a lot of cold marketing as well as partners. We have really great announcements that came up in the past few weeks. So, we have the partnership with Africa Chamber of digital commerce, where the President and Head of Communications were also on our Twitter space two weeks ago. And we also have partners, we partnered with who tweet about us. So, the word is getting out more and more.


We're appearing in more sponsored and organic articles, it's really great to see the community grow this way. And we're also seeing the effect of that. What we also have, where we get good feedback for educational posts. So, on one hand, educating about internet in Africa and the different countries, the challenges and how 3air solves this but also the technical aspects. So, for example, the benefits of being on SKALE and building on SKALE, like front running, which is a big issue on Ethereum. So, we have an article about that if you want to read more about it. And that also, I think, reassures the community about the choices, the technical choices we make and the growth of it. And then another really good thing is we have referral marketing. So that also brings new users. So, we have a lot of parallel things going on. And we can already teach something, because we were on a call earlier about this, we're going to have we discussed NFT drops earlier. So, it's going to be really exciting. 3air or NFT drops, you'll have to get whitelisted. So, there will be a process for people to get access to that because there's only limited access to them. And we don't have a wide range, but it'll be very exclusive. But it'll be really fun.

Anita Mlakar: 36:47

Okay, a lot is going on. And NFT drops were in a way, also a part of our discussion on Twitter space. And yeah, now I understand also how important they are or what role they're playing, how we can use them, how do they benefit people? So just maybe, to remind a little bit, those who weren't with us, of course, on Twitter space, Hilina, what was the main subject of our Twitter space, and what were actually the closings?

Hilina Damte: 37:17

So, the subject was on the impact of NFT's and Web 3.0 creators for Africans. And actually, we had really cool people speaking, people actually doing things on the ground, Joey Earl, which actually was doing some NFT project in Ethiopia. And really cool, they sold a lot of their art. It's really cool. Also, Nabi, who's also working on that project, and we had cross on an influencer from Nigeria, and you know, we really hit like, important points. And actually, we went even over an hour, I think. we could have longer even than that. We just talked about how, you know, we need to educate, especially in this region, Africans, because, you know, this kind of our second chance to catch up and be innovators. And this is the kind of things we're like, basically touching on now.

Anita Mlakar: 37:24

Hilina, maybe another question for you, because you were in Dubai. Now, for some time. You had an insight about also what is going on? What do you feel or think about the motivation inside of 3air's steam? How did you feel that?

Hilina Damte: 38:50

Yeah, like I said, you know, I really got time with Sandi and also just seeing how he works on and also on how eligible he is and how passionate he is about the project makes me believe about it even more. And also, like what you guys are doing is very important. We need to connect the unconnected here, right? So, there's a lot of value behind that already on top of everything else that is going to come on with 3air, so very excited about it.

Anita Mlakar: 39:22

Yes, and we could see Sandi crushing in, earlier.

Hilina Damte: 39:27

Yeah, I thought so too.

Anita Mlakar: 39:30

So, I don't know. Look at him. You cannot be without us. Is that so?

Sandi Bitenc: 39:40

That's true. I just need to come and see you at least once per week. Hello! how was your without me?

Ruba Aramouny: 39:55

We decided to take over we're staging a coup.

Sandi Bitenc: 40:00

I can take a vacation now.

Anita Mlakar: 40:06

You know, you should maybe for a day or two just to get some sleep, but I know that you won't.

Sandi Bitenc: 40:13

Not yet. We're still not there.

Anita Mlakar: 40:16

Okay, Sandi, we were talking about, of course, women's work and taking the space for ourselves. I think that was the right thing to do. And we also have some support from our community but now of course you are here, the CEO of 3air. And this is the opportunity also to ask you what is going on right now? Ruba already said that pre-sale has ended and we're happy about it.

Sandi Bitenc: 40:44

Absolutely! So, it was amazing what was going on anyone who was following us the previous weekend, this weekend, it's getting crazy in our social channels. Telegram is just blowing up. And yeah, things are really going in the right direction. I feel myself and I also think that the whole team is killing it. And also, the community is now starting to feel it actually. And why I'm late actually today because I was on a call for the meeting because as we were looking for launch pads, are we still have really a commitment currently, but we are getting there. So, let's hope everything goes well. And we are then off to a successful launch.

Anita Mlakar: 41:43

Okay, Sandi, what do you think that you were late? We didn't want you at the beginning.

Sandi Bitenc: 41:50

Okay, bye.

Anita Mlakar: 41:54

We need you now.

Ruba Aramouny: 41:56

We should get Sandi's opinion on women in crypto.

Sandi Bitenc: 42:00

I need to say I'm really happy to see this because I follow quite a lot of crypto projects. And there's almost no women in. It's a rarity, more or less so in getting like a bunch of these beautiful faces on one call or one AMA working for the same project. It's amazing. It really is. Worthy of the project, even don't we have a team of four. Now we have four women. There's a lot of men.

Petra Kmetec: 42:38

And Laura she couldn't come.

Sandi Bitenc: 42:41

Laura. She is a bit scared because she doesn't speak too well. English, but I need to get her on call once.

Ruba Aramouny: 42:51

We had her on the Christmas Special, right?

Anita Mlakar: 42:55

Yeah, she plays a very important role because she is great at what she's doing.

Sandi Bitenc: 43:01

Yeah. She really is. She's going through some tough times also. So, all the best wishes to her and her family.

Anita Mlakar: 43:15

Okay, so sending good thoughts and hearts to Laura.

Ruba Aramouny: 43:21

So, we have two special things to give away today. There's one, which is the standard one, maybe we start with that.

Anita Mlakar: 43:31

Okay, Ruba, you take over.

Ruba Aramouny: 43:34

So, the standard secret day code that you're used to entering that's a four digit one. Anita has it.

Anita Mlakar: 43:43

Yes, I do. Wow, this is really something special that I can give it away. So, listen carefully. I should say this only once. Is it is 4790, I have decided to repeat it. So, it is 4790. This is a daily secret code, right Ruba?

Ruba Aramouny: 44:10

Yes, that's correct. And if you wait a few more minutes, you might get the 200 entry ones.

Anita Mlakar: 44:19

Okay, well, let's give it all away at once but we do have some a couple of minutes more left. There was a lot of questions I saw before also not wasn't meant for us to answer it for our discussion that we had earlier. But Sandi, I think it was for you, they were also talking about what shirt you're wearing when you were appearing just for a couple of minutes and yes, it's Darth Vader it's the right one. Just let me see to find the question, it was something about protocols, this one.

Ruba Aramouny: 45:21

And I know which question you meant. So yeah, Sandi before you joined about how oftentimes women have pay gaps there's a gender gap in a lot of funding opportunities or wages. And we were saying that a benefit of blockchain is that with the digital identity, you don't know the person behind this, you can't judge them based on their gender or their race or anything. And there was a question of someone saying, how can you stay anonymous on 3air, if you have KYC on the onramp solutions?

Sandi Bitenc: 45:57

Well, there's the thing you can, and you can't. So, it's not about staying anonymous within what we actually need to do why we need to perform the KYC is because we are required to do it legally or else cannot go on long term. So, we are a fully regulated company. And we need to hold all the license and everything. And we actually want to have a long-term successful project. the project, we're having a pre-sale, and they don't collect KYC, they'll be just counted upon. And that's a regulation, it's anti money laundering policies and everything you need to do KYC for that. We're not sharing this with anyone actually. So even us, we don't store the data. So, we are using third party provider for the KYC, and they actually pull the data. And they're fully compliant, we made sure that you got the best ones in the industry. There's no risk of this data being leaked. However, so you can be certain about it.

Ruba Aramouny: 47:21

Yeah, it'll only be done once during the onramp, but the digital ID is just your wallet, it's not shared with anybody.

Sandi Bitenc: 47:32

And the digital ID is actually the digital identity. So, one is KYC that we're doing right now, but the digital ID is so the deeds are decentralized, this is going to work a bit differently, what we're still integrating, and that's actually stores data on your side that nobody actually- so there's one validator that actually validates you, and then you store the data. And what you share is just the proof that this was already validated by someone who you can trust and then you don't need to share the data.

Anita Mlakar: 48:15

Okay. I have a question here. Richard already mentioned about dropping some that will be a limited edition for only whitelisted people.

Sandi Bitenc: 48:31

Yeah, we had a meeting before today. And we set out the whole structure and to be honest, we have a lot of the NFT drop system already developed. And we also have part of the marketplace already that I left, and we were more of thinking about who we can bring to the table in regards to some artists and Hilina did a big help there. of course, Laura will be part of it. We already have some community members that are taking some photos for us and so on. So, we are coming up with some good artistic ideas about the NFT drops and we do want to have more Africa focused community and African focused artists so maybe Hilina can say a word or two because she she'll or be the one with mostly like working with the artists, she will do the technical implementation for the most parts. And yes, for sure. We're not just going to go overboard and release 10,000 NFTs, it will be exclusive, and we want to keep it exclusive, this is how we see it. It is the only way that we can actually provide good value to them.

Anita Mlakar: 50:05

Okay, Hilina, would you like to add something to that?

Hilina Damte: 50:10

Yeah, I think I'm actually really excited about this, because there are many artists in Africa, that would be great to get their work out there because also, all of you are on the Twitter space, you know, Nabi was talking about, you know how basically, a lot of the artists cannot make their own NFT's due to cost on things like that. So, this will be a great opportunity. And let's see who's going to be part of this circle, I'm thinking of a few people that I can connect with you guys and should be exciting, I am very excited about it.

Anita Mlakar: 50:48


Sandi Bitenc: 50:50

We'll make sure that the NFTs are ready until our token launch.

Anita Mlakar: 50:57

Okay. Richard saying, can you give us some NFT Sneak Peek info?

Sandi Bitenc: 51:03

We don't have the actual designs developed. We're talking to artists right now. And then the other thing is nothing to sneak peek and I could show you a few things but right now, I don't have any here. So next week.

Anita Mlakar: 51:26

Okay. Now, what do we have here, Ruba?

Ruba Aramouny: 51:30

Now what you see down there is the code for today's AMA. So, this is for the hyper engaged people, you're getting a massive boost in your number of entries. The code is AMABOOSTER, and you have to put it in where it says live AMA secret code. And it'll give you 200 additional entries. So, everyone who made it here and who stayed all the way through, this is your chance, it's going to be active for a very limited time. So go and we'll keep it for a few minutes after the AMA and then it's gone.

Anita Mlakar: 52:08

Okay, these are some teasers. good teaser, so guys do that. And of course, we would really like to hear, get some feedback about how you liked our discussion today, our ladies night, a little different than we usually do it. And I'm really happy that we had this opportunity. So, Michael, I think already wrote that he has some questions for Laura also. And I'm sure that she will be with us sometime. Also, to be able to ask that questions. And ladies that we will get together soon, again, to have an interesting discussion. And of course, be a strong, let's say strong community behind the 3air's team. Sandi? are we welcome to continue our job like that?

Sandi Bitenc: 53:01

Absolutely. You can take over for me. No worries.

Anita Mlakar: 53:05

Okay. We won't do that. But you know, we're close. Just joking. So, thank you very much, again, for being with us today. If there's something else that you would like to add, please. Go ahead. Maybe something that from women's perspective, we should add? Or did we say it or what we want to say?

Ruba Aramouny: 53:26

I think everybody was in the chat should invite a woman to join the 3air community. So, we get this going a little bit because even if you look at who's in and I think there's only one woman in today's chat, two women. So, if you want to do something good for the women in blockchain and crypto community, invite a woman to join our community.

Sandi Bitenc: 53:53

Yeah, we absolutely need more women in blockchain.

Anita Mlakar: 53:58

Yeah. And then at home, of course, you can also discuss about this, and it will be more interesting. Just really good idea, Ruba. So, thank you very much. Okay, as Jason is saying. Thank you, Jason. So, thank you for all the nice comments. Thank you for all the questions. Thank you for being a part of this AMA. And we will be together again next Wednesday, 5pm Central European Time. And before that we'll be together on Twitter space. Monday, also at 5, right Ruba?

Ruba Aramouny: 54:29


Anita Mlakar: 54:30

With an interesting subject as always. So welcome to join us.

Sandi Bitenc: 54:34

What's on the Twitter spaces next?

Ruba Aramouny: 54:36

So, the Twitter space next Monday is going to be connecting schools in Africa so we have really interesting guests again, can we ask them already? Hilina?

Hilina Damte: 54:51

Yeah, I'm not sure actually.

Ruba Aramouny: 54:52

Okay, so we have special guests. And I think you'll have the official announcement on our telegram channels and social media as well. But it's a very interesting topic because again, it touches on how 3air helps education and something we talked about today. And it's a really important aspect of what we're trying to do.

Anita Mlakar: 55:17

It's also your opportunity to be with us to participate as a speaker to ask questions, to say your opinion. So don't miss that out. Dear, Petra, Ruba, Hilina, dear Sandi, thank you very much for being a part of this conversation today. And thank you all for being with us. Stay tuned. Stay with us, follow us, be a part of our communities. Also, subscribe to our YouTube channel, invite friends invite women into this like Ruba said, and we will see you in a week time. Have a great day.

Hilina Damte: 55:51

Thank you, ladies. Bye.

Ruba Aramouny: 55:53


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Sandi Bitenc: 55:55


Anita Mlakar: 55:55